Good point. Why can we do it now based on haiguinet website and Yahoo group? The most important stuff is to design the architecture of HuangPu HaiGui club (HPHG) and elect for some leaders and staffs. Then we make some regulations and rules. So the members feel HPHG as a normal organization. If the organization grows up, we will have professional intranet and database management system. Don't think about profits at first except some sponsorship. Can we think we use it to help ourselves? This is a personal point as your reference. Nice to read the posts of all of yours.