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特总结茶馆各位老大针对“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish Steve Jobs ”的发言，人分三等：口语搞笑派、古典优美派（八字派）、引经据典派。
欢迎大家补充。
特别是还没有发过言的同学，如：鞋油、哈女、泡泡、双O。。。
Stay Hungry Stay Foolish 的翻译流派
一、口语搞笑派：
我傻我知道，我穷我努力。
吃饱了还盛，揣着明白装糊涂。
到死都很饿，到死都很蠢。/饿死，蠢死。
吃饱了还撑着，撂倒了还蹬着。（福州话）
活着干，死了算，傻人有傻福。
一直向前走，不要向两边看。
别以为自己最牛B，要学的还多着呢。
做人要厚道，做事要地道（低调）。
路很美兮又有趣，吾将上下而玩耍。
饿我所欲也，傻亦我所欲也。
二、古典优美派：（八字派）
永远饥饿，永远笨拙。
坚持疯劲，坚持傻劲。
自强不息，永远阿Q!（永远阿刚）
人在物外，不耻下问。
学无止境，不求捷径。
卧薪尝胆，矢志不渝。
敏于探索，择善固执。
求知若饥，虚心若愚。
穷则思变，大智若愚。
如饥似渴，大智若愚。
如饥似渴，纯真痴迷。（或：装疯卖傻，半痴不颠，假痴假碍）
居安思危、无知无畏
持勤如饥，从简若愚。（埋头傻干）
饿我所饿，傻我所傻。
傻则自(醒)知，饿则自立。
偏执如饥，偏执如愚。（偏执可用执着）
生命不息，折腾不止。
生命不息，追求不止。
三、引经据典派：
为伊消得人憔悴，衣带渐宽终不悔。
路漫漫兮其修远，吾将上下而求索。
物有所不足，智有所不明。
虚其心，实其腹。
生于忧患，死于安乐 plus a meaning of Knowledge is endless....
“固欲守拙”
“进取·守拙”
Stay Hungry Stay Foolish Steve Jobs Commencement Address, Stanford University 06/12/05
【阿懒读文】Stay Hungry,Stay Foolish－乔布斯在2005年6月12日斯坦福大学毕业典礼上的演讲 -|阿懒 发表于 10/12/2006 11:44:00
Stay Hungry,Stay Foolish－乔布斯在2005年6月12日斯坦福大学毕业典礼上的演讲
阿懒注:
(史蒂夫 乔布斯 Steve Jobs，苹果电脑创始人，在盖茨之前曾经是全美国人最伟大的创业偶像。
大学辍学，不是因为要创业，而是因为不知道用光父母的积蓄进行的大学学习有何用途。
曾经在正当辉煌之时被自己亲手创办的苹果公司赶走，并重新创业建立了Pixar动画工作室，好莱坞的几个动画大片全是他的这个公司处理的，后来又被重新请回到衰败的苹果并领导这家公司再创辉煌。
乔布斯是一个多次向世界证明了自己的人，从这个意义上来说，我觉得他比谁都更值得钦佩和学习。
下面是乔布斯在2005年6月12日斯坦福大学毕业典礼上的演讲，主要分享了自己人生转折中的三个故事。他没有讲他的成功和他是如何成功，而是讲他成功之前都做了什么，我觉得都是金玉良言。)
在网上找到了音频和视频，感兴趣的朋友可以听听：
MP3: 视频：
https://deimos.apple.com/Webob<x>jects/Core.woa/LoginDone/itunes.stanford.edu
物有所不足，智有所不明。
（斯坦福）是世界上最好的大学之一，今天能参加各位的毕业典礼，我备感荣幸。（尖叫声）我从来没有从大学毕业，说句实话，此时算是我离大学毕业最近的一刻。（笑声）今天，我想告诉你们我生命中的三个故事，并非什么了不得的大事件，只是三个小故事而已。
第一个故事，是关于串起生命中的点点滴滴。（原文为“connecting the dots”指一种小游戏：把标有序列号的点连起来，就构成一幅图画——译注）
我在里德大学呆了6个月就退学了，但之后仍作为旁听生混了18个月后才最终离开。我为什么要退学呢？
故事要从我出生之前开始说起。我的生母是一名年轻的未婚妈妈，当时她还是一所大学的在读研究生，于是决定把我送给其他人收养。她坚持我应该被一对念过大学的夫妇收养，所以在我出生的时候，她已经为我被一个律师和他的太太收养做好了所有的准备。但在最后一刻，这对夫妇改了主意，决定收养一个女孩。侯选名单上的另外一对夫妇，也就是我的养父母，在一天午夜接到了一通电话：“有一个不请自来的男婴，你们想收养吗？”他们回答：“当然想。”事后，我的生母才发现我的养母根本就没有从大学毕业，而我的养父甚至连高中都没有毕业，所以她拒绝签署最后的收养文件，直到几个月后，我的养父母保证会把我送到大学，她的态度才有所转变。
17年之后，我真上了大学。但因为年幼无知，我选择了一所和斯坦福一样昂贵的大学，（笑声）我的父母都是工人阶级，他们倾其所有资助我的学业。在6个月之后，我发现自己完全不知道这样念下去究竟有什么用。当时，我的人生漫无目标，也不知道大学对我能起到什么帮助，为了念书，还花光了父母毕生的积蓄，所以我决定退学。我相信车到山前必有路。当时作这个决定的时候非常害怕，但现在回头去看，这是我这一生所作出的最正确的决定之一。（笑声）从我退学那一刻起，我就再也不用去上那些我毫无兴趣的必修课了，我开始旁听那些看来比较有意思的科目。(退学，是一生所做出的最正确的决定之一)
这件事情做起来一点都不浪漫。因为没有自己的宿舍，我只能睡在朋友房间的地板上；可乐瓶的押金是5分钱，我把瓶子还回去好用押金买吃的；在每个周日的晚上，我都会步行7英里穿越市区，到Hare Krishna教堂吃一顿大餐，我喜欢那儿的食物。我跟随好奇心和直觉所做的事情，事后证明大多数都是极其珍贵的经验。
我举一个例子：那个时候，里德大学提供了全美国最好的书法教育。整个校园的每一张海报，每一个抽屉上的标签，都是漂亮的手写体。由于已经退学，不用再去上那些常规的课程，于是我选择了一个书法班，想学学怎么写出一手漂亮字。在这个班上，我学习了各种衬线和无衬线字体，如何改变不同字体组合之间的字间距，以及如何做出漂亮的版式。那是一种科学永远无法捕捉的充满美感、历史感和艺术感的微妙，我发现这太有意思了。
当时，我压根儿没想到这些知识会在我的生命中有什么实际运用价值；但是10年之后，当我们的设计第一款Macintosh电脑的候，这些东西全派上了用场。我把它们全部设计进了 Mac，这是第一台可以排出好看版式的电脑。如果当时我大学里没有旁听这门课程的话，Mac就不会提供各种字体和等间距字体。自从视窗系统抄袭了Mac以后，（鼓掌大笑）所有的个人电脑都有了这些东西。如果我没有退学，我就不会去书法班旁听，而今天的个人电脑大概也就不会有出色的版式功能。当然我在念大学的那会儿，不可能有先见之明，把那些生命中的点点滴滴都串起来；但10年之后再回头看，生命的轨迹变得非常清楚。
再强调一次，你不可能充满预见地将生命的点滴串联起来；只有在你回头看的时候，你才会发现这些点点滴滴之间的联系。所以，你要坚信，你现在所经历的将在你未来的生命中串联起来。你不得不相信某些东西，你的直觉，命运，生活，因缘际会……正是这种信仰让我不会失去希望，它让我的人生变得与众不同。(过去做的很多事情，不知道有什么用处，后来发现，原来正是这些改变了自己；现在做的很多事情，也不知道有什么用，但请把它做好，以后你会发现，正是它们成就了你。)
我的第二个故事是关于爱与失去。
我是幸运的，在年轻的时候就知道了自己爱做什么。在我20岁的时候，就和沃兹在我父母的车库里开创了苹果电脑公司。我们勤奋工作，只用了10年的时间，苹果电脑就从车库里的两个小伙子扩展成拥有4000名 员工，价值达到20亿美元的企业。而在此之前的一年，我们刚推出了我们最好的产品Macintosh电脑，当时我刚过而立之年。然后，我就被炒了鱿鱼。一 个人怎么可以被他所创立的公司解雇呢？（笑声）这么说吧，随着苹果的成长，我们请了一个原本以为很能干的家伙和我一起管理这家公司，在头一年左右，他干得 还不错，但后来，我们对公司未来的前景出现了分歧，于是我们之间出现了矛盾。由于公司的董事会站在他那一边，所以在我30岁的时候，就被踢出了局。我失去了一直贯穿在我整个成年生活的重心，打击是毁灭性的。
在头几个月，我真不知道要做些什么。我觉得我让企业界的前辈们失望了，我失去了传到我手上的指挥棒。我遇到了戴维·帕卡德（普惠的创办人之一——译注）和鲍勃·诺伊斯（英特尔的创办人之一——译注），我向他们道歉，因为我把事情搞砸了。我成了人人皆知的失败者，我甚至想过逃离硅谷。但曙光渐渐出现，我还是喜欢我做过的事情。在苹果电脑发生的一切丝毫没有改变我，一个比特（bit）都没有。虽然被抛弃了，但我的热忱不改。我决定重新开始。
我当时没有看出来，但事实证明，我被苹果开掉是我这一生所经历过的最棒的事情。成功的沉重被凤凰涅槃的轻盈所代替，每件事情都不再那么确定，我以自由之躯进入了我整个生命当中最有创意的时期。(每一段经历，当时看来可能是恐惧，可能是噩梦，可能是痛不欲生，回头却发现，正是它们成就了你。没有退学，可能Jobs搞出的电脑也乏善可陈；没有被苹果解雇，也不会有后来的Pixar。)
在接下来的5年里，我开创了一家叫做NeXT的公司，接着是一家名叫Pixar的公司，并且接识了后来成为我妻子的曼妙女郎。Pixar 制作了世界上第一部全电脑动画电影《玩具总动员》，现在这家公司是世界上最成功的动画制作公司之一。（掌声）后来经历一系列的事件，苹果买下了NeXT， 于是我又回到了苹果，我们在NeXT研发出的技术在推动苹果复兴的核心动力。我和劳伦斯也拥有了美满的家庭。
我非常肯定，如果没有被苹果炒掉，这一切都不可能在我身上发生。对于病人来说，良药总是苦口。生活有时候就像一块板砖拍向你的脑袋，但不要丧失信心。热爱我所从事的工作，是一直支持我不断前进的惟一理由。你得找出你的最爱，对工作如此，对爱人亦是如此。工作将占据你生命中相当大的一部分，从事你认为具有非凡意义的工作，方能给你带来真正的满足感。而从事一份伟大工作的惟一方法，就是去热爱这份工作。如果你到现在还没有找到这样一份工作，那么就继续找。不要安于现状，当万事了于心的时候，你就会知道何时能找到。如同任何伟大的浪漫关系一样，伟大的工作只会在岁月的酝酿中越陈越香。所以，在你终有所获之前，不要停下你寻觅的脚步。不要停下。
我的第三个故事是关于死亡。
在17岁的时候，我读过一句格言，好像是：“如果你把每一天都当成你生命里的最后一天，你将在某一天发现原来一切皆在掌握之中。”（笑声）这句话从我读到之日起，就对我产生了深远的影响。在过去的33年里，我每天早晨都对着镜子问自己：“如果今天是我生命中的末日，我还愿意做我今天本来应该做的事情吗？”当一连好多天答案都否定的时候，我就知道做出改变的时候到了。
提醒自己行将入土是我在面临人生中的重大抉择时，最为重要的工具。
因为所有的事情——外界的期望、所有的尊荣、对尴尬和失败的惧怕——在面对死亡的时候，都将烟消云散，只留下真正重要的东西。在我所知道的各种方法中，提醒自己即将死去是避免掉入畏惧失去这个陷阱的最好办法。人赤条条地来，赤条条地走，没有理由不听从你内心的呼唤。
大约一年前，我被诊断出癌症。在早晨7：30我做了一个检查，扫描结果清楚地显示我的胰脏出现了一个肿瘤。我当时甚至不知道胰脏究竟是什么。医生告诉我，几乎可以确定这是一种不治之症，顶多还能活3至6个月。大夫建议我回家，把诸事安排妥当，这是医生对临终病人的标准用语。这意味着你得把你今后10年要对你的子女说的话用几个月的时间说完；这意味着你得把一切都安排妥当，尽可能减少你的家人在你身后的负担；这意味着向众人告别的时间到了。
我整天都想着诊断结果。那天晚上做了一个切片检查，医生把一个内诊镜从我的喉管伸进去，穿过我的胃进入肠道，将探针伸进胰脏，从肿瘤上取出了几个细胞。我打了镇静剂，但我的太太当时在场，她后来告诉我说，当大夫们从显微镜下观察了细胞组织之后，都哭了起来，因为那是一非常罕见的，可以通过手术治疗的胰脏癌。 我接受了手术，现在已经康复了。
这是我最接近死亡的一次，我希望在随后的几十年里，都不要有比这一次更接近死亡的经历。在经历了这次与死神擦肩而过的经验之后，死亡对我来说只是一项有效的判断工具，并且只是一个纯粹的理性概念时相比，我能够更肯定地告诉你们以下事实：没人想死；即使想去天堂的人，也是希望能活着进去。（笑声）死亡是我们每个人的人生终点站，没人能够成为例外。生命就是如此，因为死亡很可能是生命最好的造物，它是生命更迭的媒介，送走耋耄老者，给新生代让路。现在你们还是新生代，但不久的将来你们也将逐渐老去，被送出人生的舞台。很抱歉说得这么富有戏剧性，但生命就是如此。
你们的时间有限，所以不要把时间浪费在别人的生活里。不要被条条框框束缚，否则你就生活在他人思考的结果里。不要让他人的观点所发出的噪音淹没你内心的声音。最为重要的是，要有遵从你的内心和直觉的勇气，它们可能已知道你其实想成为一个什么样的人。其他事物都是次要的。(这段话对我的触动最大，不要自己的时间浪费在别人的生活里)
在我年轻的时候，有一本非常棒的杂志叫《全球目录》（The Whole Earth Catalog），它被我们那一代人奉为圭臬。这本杂志的创办人是一个叫斯图尔特·布兰德的家伙，他住在Menlo Park，距离这儿不远。他把这本杂志办得充满诗意。那是在60年代末期，个人电脑、桌面发排系统还没有出现，所以出版工具只有打字机、剪刀和宝丽来相机。这本杂志有点像印在纸上的Google，但那是在Google出现的35年前；它充满了理想色彩，内容都是些非常好用的工具和了不起的见解。
斯图尔特和他的团队做了几期《全球目录》，快无疾而终的时候，他们出版了最后一期。那是在70年代中期，我当时处在你们现在的年龄。在最后一期的封底有一张清晨乡间公路的照片，如果你喜欢搭车冒险旅行的话，经常会碰到的那种小路。在照片下面有一排字：物有所不足，智有所不明（Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.）这是他们停刊的告别留言。物有所不足，智有所不明。我总是以此自诩。现在，在你们毕业开始新生活的时候，我把这句话送给你们。
物有所不足，智有所不明。
谢谢各位。
Stanford Report, June 14, 2005
“You've got to find what you love,” Jobs says
This is the text of the Commencement address by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, delivered on June 12, 2005.
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.
The first story is about connecting the dots.
I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?
It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.
And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.
It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:
Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.
None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.
My second story is about love and loss.
I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents’ garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.
My third story is about death.
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.
This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope its the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.
Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.
Thank you all very much.
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如何翻译的讨论：
我傻我知道，我穷我努力。 安校译
如饥似渴，纯真痴迷。（或：装疯卖傻，半痴不颠，假痴假碍） (阿草)
前面有人问起这句话里"Hungry"和"Foolish"的意思。这两个字在硅谷确实有特定的涵义。
Foolish比较简单，基本上是Vinod Khosla(著名VC, Sun Microsystem的founder)在这句话中的意思：
"Entrepreneurship is about… those who dare to dream and are foolish enough to try and make their dreams come true.”
Hungry基本上是“渴望成功”的意思。在VC的语言里，如果一个Entrepreneur已经卖掉或者上市过一两家公司，或者用其他方式赚到过钱，他可能就不怎么Hungry了。相反，如果他从未成功过，他会比较Hungry，更可能会全力以赴。VC喜欢比较Hungry的创业者。 （人在江湖）
my interpretation of "stay foolish" is that people who have innovative ideas and who take ground-breaking actions are very likely appear foolish to the public， at least in the beginning. In history many great people were mocked or persecuted for their "foolishness", yet they kept fighting, sticking to their principles. 也就是 走自己的路，让别人去说吧。 （保尔）
大智若愚中的愚，愚公移山的愚，就是这里所指的 foolishness. Follow your bliss! Don't care about what others say. （seaturtle）
人在物外,不耻下问
direct understanding of mine for the first one is: do not satisfy yourself easily, always ask more questions. also 肉食者鄙未能远谋so cannot let materialized possession getting in your way, you ought to have a bigger fish to fry
the second one I believe for me would be never over estimate yourself or you will stop making the most of what you can learn from others （250）
big head vs foolish
my take is that if you allow yourself to become a big head, you will develop an attitude and stop learning. so stay foolish is to tell yourself you still need to learn a lot more 子曰三人行必有我师.孔老二好像有点道理的 （250）
1。 音译： 死的很孤立，死的腹里虚。
2。 直译： 到死都很饿，到死都很蠢。/饿死，蠢死。
3。 意译： 学无止境，不求甚解。
宜将余勇追穷寇， 不可沽名学霸王。
不饮盗泉之水， 不食嗟来之食。
知荣而进，知耻后勇。
愚公移山。
4。 歪译： 伟人没有哥。 （GSBSMSLBC）
学无止境，不求捷径。 （筋斗云）
LP说是"卧薪尝胆",
我加上"矢志不渝"
既然英文是两句, 咱中文也对上两句.
"Stay hungry, stay foolish" -- "卧薪尝胆, 矢志不渝".
这还真是硅谷精神, JOBS总结得不错.
这里有多少人每周工作七十小时以上, 但得到的回报, 还要看各人的造化了. （随风而入）
软一点的翻译
适合还没找到爱的XDJM们:
"为伊消得人憔悴，衣带渐宽终不悔" （随风而入）
"stay hungry, stay foolish"解析
美国人引用格言, 除了典故, 另一个重要的来源是宗教. 美国商界, 成功人士常常以虔诚的教徒自居(自傲). JOBS这句话, 用了三个文盲都懂的词, 是最好的牧师语言.
这句话是教人苦修的意思. 现在还有人, 包括一些成功的商人, 在腿上绑上带刺的带子, 让刺扎在肉里, 以此来修行.
所以”stay hungry” 有劳其筋骨, 饿其体肤的意味. 而不是让人去做绿眼饿狼. JOBS是用这句结语来给自己半辈子贴金的, 绝不会把自己描绘成夏洛克式的商人.
在JOBS的这篇演讲里, 这句话最贴切的翻译是”路漫漫兮其修远, 吾将上下而求索”. 相信JOBS看了我的翻译, 肯定冲上来给我个熊抱. （随风而入）
重听了一遍, 根据那幅画，"stay hungry" 似乎还是敏于探索的意思．
"stay foolish" 看来是择善固执.
一早上班, 逮着公司里的英国MM讨教. MM眨了眨眼, 用纯正的英国腔说, 如果一直饿着,大脑就会缺乏营养, 人就会变傻. 还追问一句, 是不是讲给孩子听的啊.
只好忍着笑, stay foolish．．．
公司里其他同事，基本上认同，是要打破常规，择善固执．可惜没有一个会讲中文，虽然有不少华人面孔．
原文：
stay hungry -- "Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. "
stay foolish -- "Don't let the noise of other people drown out your inner voice. And most importantly, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. "
总的来说，要翻的文一点，我还是喜欢＂路漫漫兮其修远，吾将上下而求索＂．
按夜归人的意思, " stay hungry＂是１％的灵感， ＂stay foolish＂是９０％的汗水． （随风而入）
不如改为：路很美兮又有趣，吾将上下而玩耍
路漫漫。。有点苦行曾的味道，而stay hungry的用意是保持欲望来追求和享用美好的东西。
Stay foolish 这句话用意则完全没有表达出来。 我认为stay foolish 的用意是 1. do not judge- Nothing in you life is intrinsically good or bad – good thing can turn out to be bad, and visa versa. 2. have faith in yourself. 有一种心态叫做 reverse paranoid, meaning that you believe that everything in your my life, good or bad, is arranged in a way that will help you to achieve your goal and improve yourself, 这应该就是stay foolish 要表达的意思 （TooSimple）
东拉西扯系列：“Stay hungry. Stay foolish”的安氏翻译“我傻我知道，我穷我努力”
安普若 2005年11月2日
https://www.haiguinet.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=879338
三个月前“人在江湖”网友在海归网上帖了“赵脖”在斯坦福大学的演讲。好象后来吴越MM，无痕MM都讨论过这篇文章，我一时找不到了。
大家讨论的最多的是“四体府·赵脖”用的那句美国俚语（成语，土语）"Stay hungry. Stay foolish"是什么意思，以及如何翻译。
吴越MM是科班，是我见过“最大”的翻译家，但吴妹妹Stay foolish，她不翻。
今天“茜茜”MM又转了一个中译本，号称是从潘石屹那儿转来的。其中把这句美国话翻译成了屈原的“物有所不足，智有所不明”。
楚辞里的原文好象是这样的：“夫尺有所短，寸有所长，物有所不足，智有所不明，数有所不逮，神有所不通，用君之心，行君之意。龟策诚不能知事。” （这是我从网上找来的）
引用屈原的话，扎一看，还真有点味道。
但“对门子”大侠明察秋毫，马上指出这个翻译整个就是一个满拧。“物有所不足，智有所不明”是典型的“不可知论”，一副“出世”的态度，而“四体府·赵薄”的意思是很“入世”的。我又仔细看了看，觉得用“用君之心，行君之意”倒是可能更接近（但只是接近，并不是翻译）。
我同意“对门子”大侠的观点，但不同意他说：“这种语境和精神本来就是中华文化所没有的， 不翻译会更好。”
我中华文化浩瀚飘渺泱泱大观，如何会没有这种意境呢？
后来EIC说，有人翻译成“求知若饥，虚心若愚”，这个翻译也对也不对。第一、这里的意思不只是个“求知”的问题，第二、这句话也和“虚心”没太大的关系。这个翻译硬塞进去的东西太多！
还有人认为应该翻译成“坚持疯劲，坚持傻劲”，这个倒是很接近，但这个“疯劲”好象不太对，原文的意思应该是“坚持贪婪"，但贪婪又是个贬义词，不知道中国话里有没有和“贪婪”同意，但又是褒义的词？
还有人说应该用老子的话“虚其心而实其腹”（好象是说如果虚心就能吃饱饭），这个又和“虚心”挂上了，傻并不等于虚心啊？
我理解这句话的意思是：要一心进取，要有点野心（也就是要保持“贪婪”），但别太聪明了，人算不如天算（也就是说“傻”点没坏处）。所以要闷头苦干！天道酬勤！按江主席的话说，就是“闷头发大财”！
看了这么多的翻译，我觉得好象大家都犯了一个毛病。“四体府·赵脖”是谁啊？他大学二年级都没毕业，为什么一翻译他的话就一定又是屈原又是老子，之乎者也的，怎么拽怎么来？他的演讲就是大白话一篇，用的都是老百姓的家常话，愣要给他翻译的象老夫子一样的，只能证明翻译的人太过迂腐！
所以，我斗胆用咱北京老百姓的大白话翻译翻译这句话，我觉得"Stay hungry. Stay foolish"应该翻译成“我傻我知道，我穷我努力”。当然翻译成“装傻充愣，混吃蒙喝”更接近，但贬义的成分太多了。你总不能到人家世界名牌的斯坦福大学告诉那些自以为是的家伙，以后你们要“装傻充愣，混吃蒙喝”。
最后，我感觉可能是因为在一般人的印象中斯坦福的学生有的时候too smart了（至少是装得too smart），所以“赵脖”说要Stay foolish。斯坦福的学生家里有钱的不少，上学开宝马的有的是，毕业无忧无虑，所以“赵脖”说要Stay hungry。如果去Berkeley演讲，我不知道“赵脖”是不是还会用这句话？
后注：这老潘也是的，好象什么东西一到他的BLOG上就成圣经了。当然也不能怨他，这篇文章也不是他翻译的。Anyway，如果哪位朋友知道他的BLOG在哪儿，把我这篇给他转过去。没别的意思，只是告诉老潘如果让美国人说咱北京话更有意思。 (安普若)
接着翻：“吃饱了还盛，揣着明白装糊涂”。 (安普若)
我觉得安校的更接近脚伯的意思. 另外几句大白话也可以套用在这里: 活着干, 死了算, 傻人有傻福。 （上来下去的海归）
"Stay hungry Stay foolish" 原本并非成语
那本“The Whole Earth Catalog“最后一期背面显然有意用了这个读起来有点让人玩味的句子。中文翻译为什么不能反映这样的意图？
永远饥饿 永远笨拙。 （wanderer）
“穷则思变，大智若愚” （reader，BLOOMS）
如果参考“只有偏执狂才能生存”和阿甘的“stupid is as a stupid does". foolish显然是好事一桩。
我说这种语境在中国没有是因为中国历史还没有达到靠“创新”为发展的主要动力的阶段。 而美国吃创新的饭已经有一百年了。
中国才刚刚开始有创新的文化， stay hungry, stay foolish.正是创新文化的关键。
以中国概念网络股而言， 刚开始全是抄美国， 但是一旦迈开步， 不得不有所创新， 最后和美国样板完全不同。
STAY FOOLISH， 我理解就是“无知无畏”， 这在中华文化是贬意， 西方可是大大的好品德。
不知道，网友们有多少被人评价为“偏激”， 如果有的话， 那可是大好事啊！ 祝贺你。
（对门子）
居安思危、无知无畏
觉得还是这个无知无畏贴切一点啊
那么这个STAY HUNGRY呢?居安思危可以么?(倒是押韵的,呵呵)
GOOGLE了一下,有人翻译的是保持渴求，留有傻气－－－－好象有点太直了；另一个"求知若饥，虚心若愚"也好象哪里差了一点...... （如意缘）
吃饱了还撑着，撂倒了还蹬着。
这是福建地区福州话里来的，呵呵
当地话来说：
吃饱了还撑着，就是有些贪食，赖着不离桌，对hungry；
撂倒了还蹬着，就是有些不知好歹，对foolish。蹬着比较形象，是说给人放倒了，还倔的很，脚儿不停扑腾；给人按住动不了了，还蹬地直挺挺，不愿认，不肯服。
瞎诌1通啊，大家看笑话了，呵呵。。。 （oliverzeno）
我曾翻译成“持勤如饥，从简若愚”，应该是贴切，但好象太学究，味道没了。还是翻译成“埋头傻干”直接。
"Stay hungry. Stay foolish"有点自以为是，号召大家别调花枪，学着他傻干的意思。翻译成“我傻我知道，我穷我努力”怕是有些自恋加自怜的味道。 （八袋长老）
我翻:"傻则自(醒)知,饿则自立'
好象和校长的差不多..
这句话显然是对一群聪明人说的，所以这里的"傻则自知"才成立.
我的理解是要保持旺盛的好奇心和进取心的意思.... （小报记者）
in my humble opinion, it has a meaning of 生于忧患，死于安乐
plus a meaning of Knowledge is endless....
IMHO, the original translation 物有所不足，智有所不明 if modified with 对门子's comment "STAY HUNGRY，STAY FOOLISH”有强烈呼唤行动的含义 would be great.
（king）
如饥似渴大智若愚，不就这么简单吗？ （Lee）
饿我所饿，傻我所傻－－－－－－-饿我所欲也，傻亦我所欲也。 （爱肥童）
很喜欢Eraser的“自强不息”，所以最终的翻译是“自强不息，永远阿Q!”
(梦哥)
到目前为止, 这个最好. "永远阿刚"可能更好些.
我觉得更好的翻译是: "阿刚万岁, 万岁, 万万岁!"
阿Q太自欺, 不够自强.
没人能比阿刚更好地做"Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish"的形象代言人. (bug)
I don't think the original message implies anything about "greed", or anything about "ambition" or "goal", which is implied by a lot of Chinese proverb. It implies the endless possibilities of life and encourages people to embrace it fully. (I am not saying greed or goals are not good, but that they are not implied by the original message)
If you focus on "hungry" or "foolish", you will force yourself to find the matching word in Chinese, but may end up straying away from the meaning intended. So it is important to look into the context where message is conveyed. (NoWorry)
偏执如饥，偏执如愚
如果嫌偏执太贬义，可以用执着。
大智若愚的译法不对，原来并无“大”意。 （筋斗云）
做人要厚道，做事要地道（低调）。 （以战养战）
“固欲守拙”
俺瞎编的：保持欲望，别吃太饱。大侠的“守拙”真好。（以战养战）
stay foolish应该源自陶渊明的“守拙”。
我曾经听到过老美说，the Chinese proverb says, stay foolish, 想了老半天可能是守拙。
还有一句想了十年都没有结果的Chinese proverb是，may you live in interesting times. （不拉不拉）
“进取·守拙”——只是还是太文了，有没有老百姓的话？（安普若）
那么， "退一步， 海阔天空" 呢？或者，“傻人有傻福”？ （孤枕难眠）
生命不息, 折腾不止?
(得意地说)我也觉得不错, 折腾充分包含了"行动"与"傻"的双重含义. 命中注定, 我也是一个阿甘. 他是十分傻的话, 我估计是九分傻. 可惜没他的好运. （bug）
我原来想到“生命不息, 追求不止”。但是你“折腾”两字用的太好了。
是不是你周围不乏这样的阿甘？ (梦哥)
海子的名言：“我要做远方的忠实的儿子，和物质的短暂情人．”
Stay Hungary: 一直向前走
Stay Foolish: 不要向两边看 （天虎）
别以为自己最牛B，要学的还多着呢。 （docliu）
天将降大任于斯人也,必先劳其筋骨,饿其体肤,空乏其身,行拂乱其所为,所以动心忍性,增益其所不能。 （Kkid）
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